Urbin wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 10:06:54 -0400, IYM wrote:
>> Urbin wrote:
>>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 02:50:13 -0500, Shiflet wrote:
>>>> "Shiflet" <rshiflet@charter.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:io0vm5$cso$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>> There's 1 other factor you omitted:raid makeup.
>>>>>
>>>>> Depending on raid composition, you can theoretically be getting ALL the
>>>>> boosts that affect your DPS, especially if it's a 25 man. If you're a
>>>>> caster for example, and you have somewhere in your group a pally or druid,
>>>>> an arcane mage or BM hunter, a lock specced into Shadow and Flame, and an
>>>>> ele shaman, you'll have:
>>>>> BoK/MotW(5% more int=more SP and spell crit=more damage)
>>>>> Totemic Wrath(10% more SP=more damage)
>>>>> Curse of the Elements(8% more spell damage)
>>>>> Shadow and Flame(5% increased spell crit=more damage)
>>>>> Arcane Tactics/Ferocious Inspiration(3% more damage)
>>>>> Wrath of Air Totem(5% spell haste=more damage)
>>>>> Elemental Oath(5% more crit=more damage)
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, the warlock can possibly give you 3% spell haste and dot damage
>>>>> boost > via Dark Intent, if you're the raid member who gains the most
>>>>> benefit from it(or if you're the warlock). Likewise, if you're not the
>>>>> arcane mage, you could possibly be given Focus Magic for another 3% crit
>>>>> boost. If the mage wasn't arcane and you didn't have a BM hunter, you
>>>>> could still get the 3% damage buff from the pally provided he was ret.
>>>>> Plus of course, with a shaman/mage in your group, you'd have
>>>>> Bloodlust/Heroism to boost your damage way up for a time as well.
>>>> Also, in a raid you'll also be more likely to have buff foods and flasks up
>>>> than elsewhere too, adding a little bit more DPS via that way as well.
>>> Thanks, that makes sense. So I guess I shouldn't compare myself to the 33k
>>> burst damage IYM mentioned but instead to the 12-13k dps my other group
>>> members dealt and I guess that can be explained by gear and rotation quite
>>> well.
>> Correct.... I don't get 33K in a heroics. Hell, I don't usually get in
>> in a raid. The stars were aligned, crits were going my way and the
>> such. I was just jazzed to see the 30K barrier break, even if it was a
>> 25 second burst on a burn phase.
>>
>> On a 5 man, I only run arcane now, and usually end with a 14-19K
>> average, depending if I'm cc'ing for any reason. (ie - keeping the
>> purple trogg sheeped during the first boss in H Grim batol) There are
>> two hunters in my guild, with lower gear than me who still usually out
>> dps me though. 12-13K is really pretty good in heroics an nothing to
>> sneeze at :)
>
> Of course 12-13k is nothing to sneeze at. The problem is, I'm not getting
> it, I am stuck somewhere in the low 9k and was wondering if that is just
> gear dependent or if I can improve my rotation.
>
> Cheers
> Urbin
>
Oh missunderstood - sorry. My hunter is only level 60, and I haven't
played him since cata, so I won't be much help. Other than to say I
have two hunters in my guild, including the GM. He has two hunters on
the same realm, his main and a level 81 alt he tests things on and runs
regular dungeons (non-heroic) He out dps's me, and the other hunter out
dps's him. i can ask him what his rotation is and then privately give
you his toon name and realm for you to check out and compare if your
interested. He is the best hunter I personally know...like I said, if
your interested, I'll ask. :)
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